Between the Named and the Forgotten – Edge Beings in Norse Cosmology

As you begin to spend enough time with the old material, you start to get comfortable with it in an unusual sort of way. It’s slippery, like when you think you’ve finally figured out how a system works, only to realize the system has been side-eyeing you the entire time. Welcome to Norse Mythology.

It starts with the source material. You move through the tales in the Poetic Edda, then into the Prose Edda, and somewhere along the line your eyes start to cross. We want things to follow a pre-established timeline that is easily followed. Start at point A and by the time you get to point Z everything fits neatly into order, but that’s not how it really works. Myths compress timelines, and sometimes the roles and names of characters shift in a way that leaving you feeling like you’re standing on quicksand. You try to do your due diligence and learn early languages, declensions, cases, and figure out whether the person mentioned is a distinct figure or just another title-like descriptor -it’s frustrating, especially when people don’t agree. Then you hit the moments where someone is mentioned, a story is hinted at, a place is quietly assumed in the background and you can’t for the life of you figure out where the hell it came from or why it was worth mentioning at all. This is where we will find names that exist almost on the edge of the cosmos. Liminal beings, outdwellers, edge beings whose presence was worth noting but not explaining.

You’ll catch it if you’re paying attention. A name slips in without ceremony, attached to a moment that feels like it should carry more weight than it’s given. There’s no pause to introduce them, no helpful aside to ground you, no tidy explanation waiting a few lines later to make it all make sense. The text simply keeps moving, completely unbothered, while you’re left sitting there thinking, “Wait… who was that, and why did that feel important?” The authors had to have included them for a reason, right? You’re left with the feeling that something important has been lost with no way to give it its assigned place. The text almost suggests there’s a mystery to solve but then shifts gears midstream and becomes quieter. Rather than an impetus to follow the clues it ends up more like brushing up against something just outside your line of sight—close enough to notice, but not something you’re invited to fully turn and face.

Take Fjölsviðr in Fjölsvinnsmál. He’s not just standing around looking decorative—he’s guarding a threshold, answering questions, holding knowledge like it actually matters, which, let’s be honest, usually means we should pay attention. The sources have several instances where knowledge-seeking drives a narrative and fills out the cosmology itself. The entire exchange has weight, and you can feel that you’re brushing up against something important. When the poem ends Fjölsviðr apparently clocks out for the rest of eternity. No follow-up or extended lore. No “Fjölsviðr: The Sequel.” Just that one moment, forwarding a narrative, and then he’s gone, like being part of your neatly organized notes was beneath him.

How about Hrimgrímnir in Skírnismál? His name shows up in a threat used against a woman who refused the suit of a fertility god. We get the name, the implication, and a polite cosmic shrug. Do we get a story explaining why? Of course not. But based on the reaction of the woman threatened we get a sense that whatever is being invoked is not something you want to casually run into on a bad day.

Then there’s Sökkmímir, who shows up near Mímir’s well. A place already recognized as a big deal considering that well is tied to wisdom, sacrifice, and Óðinn doing things that probably should have come with a warning label. He matters enough to mention in the first place but then…nothing. Instead, Sökkmímir just exists there. Close enough to matter in a lost context and elusive enough that you’re not invited any further in.

Moving further through the lore, even Vafþrúðnir—who really should come with a full series and a companion guide—ends up doing something similar. He steps into the narrative with his own small book of the Poetic Edda, trades knowledge with Óðinn on a level that makes it very clear he is not just some passing figure, and then disappears neatly once his role is fulfilled. The beginning of the interaction starts with Frigga warning Óðinn that Vafþrúðnir is not someone to be played with. It is set up from the beginning that he is someone to be feared. But after the exchange there is no lingering, no extended arc, no continuation of the tale. Just a perfectly executed moment, and then off he goes.

These figures tend to show up right where things get a little strange—where a story leans into uncertainty, where a boundary is being approached, where the tone shifts just enough to make you sit up a little straighter and pay attention. And while it looks random at first glance, it isn’t.

Fjölsviðr isn’t just a character; he stands at a threshold, deciding what crosses and what doesn’t. Hrímgrímnir isn’t just a name; he defines consequence, something waiting beyond a line you probably shouldn’t step over lightly. Sökkmímir lingers near a place of deep knowledge, close enough to suggest something more but distant enough to keep it out of reach, while Vafþrúðnir speaks from somewhere older and wider, just outside the comfortable boundaries of the story.

They don’t anchor the world the way the more familiar figures do. They don’t build out into long narratives or come back around for character development. They show up where the edges are and hold them.

I’ll admit, my first instinct was to try and wrangle all of this into something tidy. Track the names, build connections, smooth it out into a system that made sense from start to finish. Honestly? A lot of heathens try this at some point in their journey. There’s a certain satisfaction in that kind of work, especially if you’re used to dealing with material that rewards organization and persistence. The problem is, the more you try to force these figures into that structure, the more they resist it. The ends don’t meet, and the puzzle pieces refuse to form a complete picture. They don’t expand the way you expect them to. They don’t behave like missing pieces waiting to be slotted into place. If anything, they start to feel flatter the harder you push them toward the center. The lines blur in a way that makes your eyes cross and has you reaching for ibuprofen.

Then, you let go of the boundaries. The blurred lines begin to feel like wide areas of possibilities rather than frustrating contradictions. Instead of feeling like unfinished notes, they settle into intentional placements—markers that tell you where the story is brushing up against something larger than it has time to explore, or maybe permission to. And yes, there is the very real possibility that there were more tales and detail that Snorri chose to deliberately ignore. The gods know we lost a LOT of texts in the 17th century to a sunken ship in the Atlantic Ocean, then followed by the fires of Copenhagen. The trunks on that ship could have contained more law books or land grants – or may have held tales long forgotten and now lost forever. Thus creating its own liminal plane of what might have been.

Not everything needs to be named, defined, categorized, and filed away to be meaningful. Some presences are felt in passing, in the slight shift of attention, in the sense that you’ve stepped just outside of what you can comfortably explain. Nothing dramatic, nothing that demands a grand declaration. This is where the beauty of “what-ifs” and UPG begin to gain value. They keep the material alive rather than stagnant. Those brief mentions stop looking like gaps to fix and start behaving more like edges you’re allowed to approach but not cross completely. You can circle them, sit with them, let them exist without immediately turning them into something else. There’s absolutely a place for structure. Especially in modern pagan spaces where we’re all trying to piece together something workable from fragments that may not have been meant to survive this long in the first place. But still, not everything in these sources feels like it’s asking to be rebuilt. Some of it feels like it was always meant to remain just slightly out of reach—not as a flaw, but as part of how the world was understood. Not everything was centered. Not everything was explained. Some things existed at the edges because that’s exactly where they belonged. So maybe these figures aren’t forgotten. They are there to inspire wonder, a little consternation, and maybe a healthy dose of caution. There is no need to force your way through to see them. Allow your gaze to drift out of focus and be present with the space. Just… don’t be surprised if something is looking back.

New podcast

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I have a new podcast up on YouTube and Patreon. I would have also posted on Podbean but at none and a half months of no work I don’t have the money to keep paying for it right now. The longer podcasts are not videos. They are audio podcasts that I stuck a photo on in order to post onto the various video social platforms. Here are the links:

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Things are getting really bad and I’m not sure how long I will be able to continue doing any of the shorts or podcasts once I am kicked out of my home. I deserve it though. I chose to leave thinking I had a right to a good work-life balance when I didn’t. I should have just stayed for the paycheck and dealt with it. Hindsight, am I right? Until I go completely radio silent due to lack of funds enjoy what’s been queued up.

“The Weight of Silence – What the Sources Don’t Tell Us About the Turning Year”

Have you ever noticed after spending enough time with the old material that there’s a particular kind of quiet you run into contemplating the words and stories. There are names to learn, stories to follow, connections to trace, and it’s easy to assume that if you just keep reading long enough, the structure will eventually reveal itself. A pattern previously undiscovered will click into place, setting your spidey-senses tingling, and a long lost answer will manifest.

Then, it’s gone in a puff of smoke leaving you frustrated and wondering whether the whole thing was imagined.

When you move between sources like the Poetic Edda and the Prose Edda, what starts to stand out is not just what is there, but what isn’t. Stories unfold, lineages twist into one another in ways that feel like they should resolve if you just follow them one step further, and the world behind them keeps moving like something just slightly out of sync with the page. Every now and then, something clicks. A name echoes another. A relationship almost lines up. A detail from one section nudges something you read earlier and your brain lights up like, “Oh. Oh I see what you did there.”

And then… no. No, you don’t.

It slips. Not in a dramatic, table-flipping way, just enough that when you go back to trace it again, the shape isn’t quite the same. What felt like a solid thread turns into a “well… maybe?” and suddenly you’re staring at the page like it personally betrayed you. Which, honestly, feels a little rude.

Sitting with that long enough starts to change the question whether you want it to or not.

It stops being “what am I missing?” and starts leaning toward something a bit more uncomfortable. What if nothing is missing. What if this isn’t broken. What if we’re the ones trying to force something living into a format it was never meant to stay in?

The Poetic Edda and the Prose Edda give us what was written down, which is incredibly valuable, but also… let’s be honest for a second. What we have is what made it to parchment after generations of people telling, retelling, adjusting, forgetting, remembering differently, and probably arguing about it over food at some point. By the time it was written, it had already lived a thousand slightly different lives. So treating it like a perfectly preserved, single-version system starts to feel a little like trying to pin a shadow to the ground and getting annoyed when it moves.

There’s this instinct that creeps in, especially once you’ve been at this for a while, to tighten your grip on the material. To protect it. To make sure you’re “getting it right.” To not accidentally step outside the lines of what’s been recorded. Which makes sense. Nobody wants to be that person just making things up and calling it tradition. At the same time… there’s a quiet little voice that shows up eventually and goes, “Okay, but what if the lines were never that clean to begin with?” Not in a rebellious, throw-the-book-out kind of way. More like… loosening your hold just enough to let the thing breathe a little. The stories don’t move anymore on the page. They’re fixed there. They’re not going to adjust themselves based on new experiences or new perspectives. But you will.

That “almost” feeling starts to matter in a different way. Instead of trying to force it into something solid, you can just… follow it for a minute. Let it be a possibility instead of a conclusion. What if that name didn’t always mean exactly what we think it does? What if a relationship that looks incomplete on the page made perfect sense in a version we never got? What if some of those gaps aren’t gaps at all, but places where variation used to live and we just didn’t inherit that part?

That’s where things start to feel alive again. In a way that sits right alongside it, like a second layer you can only really notice once you stop trying to nail everything down. This is usually the part where people get a little nervous, because this is also where UPG starts quietly knocking on the door. Rather than the wild, untethered kind that ignores everything that came before it, it’s the kind that grows out of actually engaging with the material long enough that it starts engaging back. The kind that says, “hey… have you considered looking at it this way?” and then just waits to see what you do with it.

You don’t have to accept every thought that comes through. Not every “what if” needs to settle into belief. Sometimes it’s enough to let the question sit there for a while and see what it does. There’s a difference between honoring the sources and holding them so tightly they can’t breathe anymore. One keeps them relevant. The other turns them into something you admire from a careful distance, like a museum piece you’re a little afraid to get too close to.

Stepping a little out of phase with the material doesn’t break anything. If anything, it gives it somewhere to move again. It nudges you out of that place where everything feels locked into a single version, a single interpretation, a single point in time that no longer shifts or responds. After a while, that quiet you run into starts to feel a little different. Not like something is missing… but like you’re standing just outside the place where it used to keep unfolding.

The Multi-Layered Earth Powers – Nerþus, Hreða, Erce, Fjörgyn, and Jörð

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I apologize for the slightly late posting again. This time of year is always a little rough for me so I am a little slower than normal. Today’s episode is covering several Earth centric goddesses and how the layer into the energies of the earth. I’ve woven together some lore, some UPG, and sprinkled in some what-if for those that like to explore. Enjoy!

 

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